Article by Devdatt.B.Dave

Mars and Saturn in 12^th, 8^th or 5^th House [Sambhu Hora Praksha 14/13]

As per the above given principle the person with such combinations in their horoscopes are usually deprived of their mother land, having to leave his/her place of birth. And though the thumb rule states Saturn – Mars conjunction is mandatory in either of the houses, whereas in my observation, if Saturn is placed in 12^th/5^th/ 8^th or vice versa if mars are placed in either of these houses this rule holds good as well.

To prove the same, below given, are a couple of charts of various individuals with the given combinations and short description as to how the above principle was applicable in each case.

1.Chart of Mr.P.M

DOB – 17/6/ 1956

Time – 10.00am

Place- Vishnagar (Gujarat)

Lat – 23N 42’00 / Long- 72E 33’00

The person was originally doing steel business during 1997 – 2000.
In this phase he introduced a financial scheme for customer benefit which backfired and he had to flee his place of birth with huge debts and moved into Chennai to reside with his in-laws.
Despite of all above circumstances and 5^th house of this individual’s horoscope being poor, his son now an IT Engineer , is well placed

2.Chart of Mr.U.D

DOB – 21 Sep 1959

Time – 23.06.00

Place-Chennai

Instance during the period of Rahu – Mars between 1999- 2000

He was a commission agent for textile business and alongside did private textile business and suffered loss due to his suppliers.
Despite of given difficulties he began working for plywood market and after yet another unsuccessful endeavor , was eventually forced to leave with family from Chennai between 1999 -2000
He relocated to Bharuch (Gujarat) started off his own laundry with the aid of his in-laws.
In this case as well his son is well placed now as a Chemical Engineer ( this is yet another constant being seen so far in most case quoted here and may require further pondering as a separate subject of discussion )

3.Chart of Mr.HPM

DOB – 28 Oct 1956

Time – 1.15 am

Place – Bhavnagar (Gujarat)

Condition applicable – 5^th house occupied by Saturn and

8^th house occupied by Mars

Basic education was poor
Imperfect business style and he ended up cheating his shop owner by selling his rental property to a third party for a sum of 7 lakhs and fled from Chennai with the amount between 1996 -1997
His son is now better placed as an Electrical engineer

4.Chart of MrHS and Mr.MS

DOB – 9 June 1951

Time – 16.30

Place – Chennai

Saturn is in 12^th house and Mars in 8^th House

DOB – 13 May 1981

Time – 07 .00 am

Place – Chennai

Condition applicable – Mars occupies 12^th house & Saturn occupies

11-2-2012 to 12-4-2012

The father son duo were involved with imitation jewellery business, suffered huge debts, separation from siblings.
Yet with persistent efforts he helped set a travel agency for his son again with borrowed money
Finally they went broke due to repeated business failures and huge liabilities that forced them to flee from Chennai in 2012

5.Charts of Mr.HDV and Mrs.RHV

HDV

DOB -2 May 1971

Time – 19.00.00

Place –Chennai

RHV

DOB – 15 Dec 1971

Time _ 02.45.00

Place – Chennai

Condition applicable – Mars occupies 5^th house and Saturn occupies 8^th house

These are charts of husband and wife

Father of Mr.HDV expired on 17/3/09 and left a legacy of debts.
Currently Mr.HDV continues to run the family business ( of cycle spare parts) and making efforts to clear off all existing debts
As seen his wife’s chart also reveal Mars in 5^th House and Saturn in 8tth house with Mars in highest shadabala .
As of date, this family continues to have a meager to moderate existence and as seen in cases priory, similar circumstances have not yet come about.
Yet the charts are indicative and hence can definitely be borne in mind for application of the principle.

For conclusions, I take the liberty to suggest remedial measures for the above as follows :

For eg – For Taurus & Libra ascendant (lagna) – advised to wear sapphire blue (precious gemstone and offer prayers to Mars.

For Leo and Cancer ascendant (lagna) – advised to wear coral (precious gemstone and offer prayers to Saturn.

Likewise for very lagna, yoga karaka we can suggest the requisite gemstone or prayers.

Leaving the Birth Place by- Devdatt.B.Dave